Recent Episodes

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May 28, 2026

Justin Oberman: All Marketing Is Showmanship and AI Search Is a Consensus Engine — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Justin Oberman — fourth-generation salesman, former big-agency copywriter, COVID layoff survivor who built a 7-figure agency through LinkedIn, and self-described publicist. His thesis: all advertising is showmanship, and the person who puts on the best show wins. By that frame, the best SEO strategy for AI search is the same as the best publicity strategy — do things that get talked about.

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May 28, 2026

Brittany Trafis: AI Search Is Not SEO 2.0 — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Brittany Trafis, founder of Saurian Digital — an AI-native agency she built from scratch around AI search rather than retrofitting AI onto existing SEO workflows. The conversation covers why AI search and SEO are fundamentally different channels, why monitoring data is directional not definitive, and why small businesses are genuinely ahead of large competitors in AI visibility right now.

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May 28, 2026

Chris Garrett: The Myth of the Pure SEO and Why Bing Matters More Than Ever — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Chris Garrett — a digital marketing veteran who connected a 2,000-student college to the internet in 1994. The conversation draws on 30 years of watching what changes and what doesn't: why pure SEO is a fiction, why Bing now feeds multiple major LLMs and can't be ignored, what the Helpful Content Update actually did, and why human creativity still beats AI on one specific quality.

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May 28, 2026

Julia Bocchese: Pinterest Is a Search Engine and Small Businesses Are Sleeping on It — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Julia Bocchese of Julia Renee Consulting — an SEO and Pinterest strategist who teaches college SEO without textbooks because anything printed a year ago is already out of date. The conversation covers why Pinterest is a search engine not a social platform, why pins from 2009 still drive traffic, and the single mistake Julia sees more than any other: writing copy for the bots instead of the humans who will actually pay you.

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May 28, 2026

Ernesto Ortiz: Algorithm Updates Only Hurt the Incomplete — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Ernesto Ortiz of Structural SEO — a test-driven practitioner who runs month-to-month contracts because he has to perform or lose the client. The conversation covers algorithm updates as dial adjustments, why traffic is a proxy not a goal, and why the scariest thing in SEO right now is LinkedIn gurus selling AI systems to people who ranked their first site three weeks ago.

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May 28, 2026

Stephan Bajayo: There Is No Rank in an LLM — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Stephan Bajayo, co-founder of Vibe Logic and one of the people who helped build the enterprise SEO industry. The conversation is a wide-ranging diagnosis of why SEOs have failed to define themselves, why "rank in an LLM" is the wrong question entirely, and why the interview is still the most underused research tool in the business.

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May 28, 2026

Robert Spinrad: Good SEO Is Good AI Visibility — Unscripted SEO Podcast

In this episode of the Unscripted SEO Podcast, Jeremy Rivera sits down with Robert Spinrad, Associate SEO Director at SEO Interactive, to talk about the shift from learning about AI to earning AI trust — and why the agencies that stay transparent, report on revenue, and build real-world signals will come out ahead.

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Feb 27, 2026

Timothy Malmros on Black Hat SEO, Drop Domains & the Canonical Trick

Timothy Malmros spent nearly two decades in gambling affiliate SEO before retiring to do one thing: investigate and document how black hat SEO actually works. In this episode, we get into drop domains, the canonical trick, Trust Rank theory, and what Google's anti-spam collapse means for the future of search.

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Feb 6, 2026

Jeremy Yang on Paid Ads Strategy and the SEO-SEM Divide

Jeremy Yang manages $450K/month in ad spend from Sydney, Australia. In this episode, he and Jeremy Rivera dig into the SEO-SEM divide, why exact match is dead, how platform selection depends on your content fuel supply, and what AI search means for the future of paid advertising.

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Dec 8, 2025

Lorrie Thomas Ross on Marketing in the AI Era

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Lorrie Thomas Ross on Marketing in the AI Era A veteran marketer on what changes, what doesn't, and the human-centered principles that survive every algorithm shift. ▶ Listen to the Episode...

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Sep 10, 2025

Entity Optimization and AI with Jason Barnard

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Entity Optimization and AI with Jason Barnard The Brand SERP Guy on the algorithmic trinity of modern search, controlling your digital footprint, and practical strategies for AI search...

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May 7, 2025

SEO for Fun & Profit with Scott Hendison

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast SEO for Fun & Profit with Scott Hendison Veteran SEO and founder of Search Commander on the current state of technical SEO, practical client advice, and what 20+ years in the industry...

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Jan 2, 2025

The People First Framework With Keith Breseé

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast The People First Framework with Keith Breseé How Keith was "bitten by a radioactive SEO," his People First philosophy, and what working with Dr. Axe taught him about building trust at scale. ▶...

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Dec 28, 2024

Killer SEO Quotes on: Link Building

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Killer SEO Quotes: Link Building The sharpest quotes from across the Unscripted SEO interview library on link building strategy, site authority, parasite SEO, and what actually moves rankings. ▶...

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Dec 27, 2024

Mordy oberstein on brand

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Mordy Oberstein on Brand: The Intersection of Brand & SEO Head of SEO Brand at Wix on why brand is now the most durable ranking factor — and how to build brand signals that actually move...

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Aug 28, 2024

Mordy Oberstein

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Mordy Oberstein: Podcast Royalty Revealed From teacher to SEO industry voice — his background, how he fell into SEO in 2014, and the unfiltered hot takes that made him one of the most followed...

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Aug 28, 2024

Grant Simmons

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Grant Simmons: The Incredible Switch — From Corporate to Freedom 35+ years of marketing experience, freelance SEO consulting, and what the leap from corporate to independent work actually...

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Aug 28, 2024

Simon Schnieders

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Simon Schnieders: Hidden Truths About Running a Large SEO Agency Founder of Blue Array on what nobody tells you about scaling an SEO agency — and the management decisions that make or break...

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Aug 28, 2024

Lidia Infante

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Meet Lidia Infante: The Unstoppable Force Changing the Face of SEO Senior SEO Manager at Sanity.io — using psychology, data, and technical precision to push what's possible at the enterprise...

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Aug 28, 2024

Sam Partland

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Sam Partland: Living the Dream — Programmatic SEO Nomad Life Travelling the world while working freelance on enterprise and programmatic SEO — what the nomad lifestyle actually teaches you about...

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Aug 28, 2024

Jason Barnard

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Brand SERP Bombshells: Jason Barnard's Exclusive Tips and Tricks The Brand SERP Guy on Knowledge Panel management, brand search optimization, and why controlling what Google says about you is...

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Aug 28, 2024

Rand Fishkin

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast From SEO Pioneer to Audience Research Champ: Rand Fishkin's Epic Journey Founder of Moz and SparkToro on what the SEO industry gets wrong about audience research — and why understanding where...

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Aug 28, 2024

Barry Schwartz

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Barry Schwartz: The SEO News Editor with 40,000 Stories to Tell CEO of RustyBrick and founder of Search Engine Roundtable — 20+ years covering every major Google update from the front row of the...

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Aug 28, 2024

Joy Hawkins

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Joy Hawkins: Groundbreaking Local SEO Insights from Sterling Sky Founder of Sterling Sky on the most important and most misunderstood signals in local search — and what rigorous testing actually...

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Aug 28, 2024

Neil Patel

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Behind the 9-Figure Empire: Neil Patel's Secret to SEO Success One of the most recognized names in digital marketing on scaling content, building multi-million-person audiences, and why the...

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Aug 28, 2024

Kate Toon

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast How Kate Toon is Shaping the Digital Landscape: Creative Copywriting Meets SEO Award-winning business mentor, author, and founder of Recipe for SEO Success on why good SEO writing is still the...

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Aug 28, 2024

Julia & Serge

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Bootstrapping a Technical SEO Tool with Julia & Serge from JetOctopus CEO and CTO of JetOctopus on what it takes to build and grow a technical SEO crawler as a bootstrapped company competing...

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Aug 28, 2024

Dixon Jones

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Behind the Scenes with Dixon Jones: The Unseen World of Entity SEO CEO of InLinks and author of 'Entity SEO' on what entity optimization actually means — and why it's the most misunderstood...

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Aug 28, 2024

Josh Peacock

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Josh Peacock's Unfiltered Take on SEO Recruitment CEO & Co-Founder of SEO For Hire on what the SEO job market really looks like from the inside — and what agencies and candidates both get...

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Aug 27, 2024

Nick LeRoy

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Nick LeRoy: The Reality of Living the SEO Freelancing Life Freelance SEO consultant, podcaster, and newsletter author on what SEO freelancing actually looks like past the honeymoon phase — and...

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Aug 27, 2024

Kevin Indig

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:The Captivating Fortune 500 Growth Advisor Story of Kevin Indig Kevin Indig, Growth Advisor & Author of 'Growth Memo' Newsletter Kevin Indig is a seasoned Growth Advisor with a...

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Aug 27, 2024

Apurva Bose

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:Growing Small Local Businesses Beyond the SEO Norm with Apurva Bose Apurva Bose, Vice President of Operations & Strategy at Overtake Digital Apurva Bose, affectionately known as...

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Aug 27, 2024

Joe Fisher

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:Joe Fisher on Boosting Sales with Ecommerce SEO Grandchild Pages Joe Fisher, eCommerce SEO Consultant at Fisher SEO Joe Fisher is an eCommerce SEO Consultant at Fisher SEO, with...

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Aug 27, 2024

Ash Nallawalla

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:Stories of a Fractional Enterprise SEO with Ash Nallawalla Ash Nallawalla, Fractional Enterprise SEO & Author of Accidental SEO Manager Ash Nallawalla is a seasoned Fractional...

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Aug 27, 2024

Julian Goldie

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Julian Goldie on Building Authority via YouTube & Converting Content YouTuber and SEO agency owner on why video is the most underutilized distribution channel for SEO-focused content...

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Aug 27, 2024

James Brockbank

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Transforming Your SEO and Digital PR Strategy with James Brockbank Managing Director of Digitaloft on how digital PR and link earning have evolved — and why the gap between SEO strategy and PR...

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Aug 27, 2024

Jamie I.F.

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast An Insider View of Profit-Led Money Hat SEO with Jamie I.F. SEO affiliate and SaaS marketer on grey-hat tactics, monetization models, and what the profit-led approach to organic search actually...

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Aug 27, 2024

Jen Boland

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast User Satisfaction and Content Measurement with Jen Boland Founder of Satisfyly on how to actually measure whether your content is satisfying users — and why the metrics most teams track are...

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Aug 27, 2024

Mark A Preston

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Mark A Preston: Transitioning From Full-Time SEO to Semi-Retirement The founding host passes the mic to Jeremy Rivera — and shares the revenue-sharing model, board-seat strategy, and mindset...

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Aug 27, 2024

Ryan Darani

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast The Brutal Reality of Generating 6-Figures as an SEO Freelancer with Ryan Darani Search Strategy Director at Rise at Seven on the sacrifices behind six-figure freelancing, why commercial...

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Aug 27, 2024

Liam Quirk

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Mastering the ROI Mindset to Boost SEO Agency Profits with Liam Quirk MD of Quirky Digital on building a 15-person agency from a bedroom during COVID, shifting clients to ROI-first thinking, and...

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Aug 27, 2024

Doug Bradley

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Taking the US Legal SEO Marketing Sector by Storm with Doug Bradley Founder of Everest Legal Marketing on why legal SEO is the most demanding vertical in digital marketing — and why...

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Aug 27, 2024

Gerry White

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Navigating the Complexities of Modern SEO with Gerry White VP of Growth at Mirador Local on enterprise SEO, newsjacking, local trust signals, and why understanding your customer's full journey...

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Aug 27, 2024

Gareth Hoyle

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:Adapting to Industry Changes with Agency Director Gareth Hoyle Gareth Hoyle, Managing Director of Marketing Signals Gareth Hoyle is the Managing Director of Marketing Signals, a...

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Aug 27, 2024

Erika Varangouli

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast International SEO & Building Brand Authority with Erika Varangouli Head of SEO Brand at Semrush on how international SEO strategy intersects with brand-led organic growth — and what most...

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Aug 27, 2024

Kev Wiles

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Technical SEO That Actually Matters with Kev Wiles Enterprise SEO consultant on which technical fixes actually move rankings, how to prioritize an audit backlog, and what separates meaningful...

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Aug 27, 2024

Cory Beevers

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Winning at Local SEO with Cory Beevers The SEO Director on what actually moves the needle in local search, the signals most businesses ignore, and how to build a local presence that compounds...

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Aug 27, 2024

Brie E Anderson

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Measuring Content Marketing Results with Brie E Anderson Founder of Beast Analytics on the metrics that actually matter for content, what most teams measure wrong, and how to connect organic...

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Aug 27, 2024

Tom Marriott

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Misunderstood SEO: Tom Marriott, The SEO Punk, Reveals All Digital Marketing Director at Ina4 on cutting through surface-level SEO advice, why authentic short-form content beats polished...

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Aug 27, 2024

Charles Floate

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Grey Hat SEO, Parasite Pages & What Google Won't Tell You with Charles Floate The affiliate SEO and link builder on the tactics the industry whispers about, the tests that revealed how...

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Aug 27, 2024

Harry Evans

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:The Focused Audience-First SEO Growth Mindset with Harry Evans Harry Evans, Co-founder of TwelveTwentyFive Introducing Harry Evans, the dynamic co-founder of TwelveTwentyFive, an...

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Aug 27, 2024

Ryan Jones

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast SEO Strategy, Agency Life & the Future of Search with Ryan Jones Razorfish SEO Director on how large agency SEO actually works, what enterprise clients really need, and his unfiltered take...

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Aug 27, 2024

Nikki Pilkington

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:The Non-wanky Approach to Small Business SEO with Nikki Pilkington Nikki Pilkington, SEO & Content Consultant Meet Nikki Pilkington, a distinguished SEO consultant and content...

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Aug 27, 2024

Joe Davies

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Building a Link Building Empire with Joe Davies of FATJOE Founder of one of the UK's largest white-label SEO and content agencies on what link building looks like at scale, what most SEOs get...

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Aug 27, 2024

Kevin Gibbons

THE UNSCRIPTED SEO INTERVIEW PODCAST:The Challenges and Highlights of SEO Agency Growth with Kevin Gibbons Kevin Gibbons, Founder & CEO of Re:Signal From humble beginnings as a university student juggling a placement...

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Aug 27, 2024

Danny Richman

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast AI, Automation & the Future of SEO Work with Danny Richman The digital strategist and educator on how AI is reshaping the practical day-to-day of SEO — and which human skills will compound...

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Aug 27, 2024

Edd Dawson

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Building Profitable Affiliate Sites & What Actually Works in SEO with Edd Dawson The affiliate site builder on the practical, results-first approach to SEO that most conference talks skip —...

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Aug 27, 2024

Martin MacDonald

🎙️ Unscripted SEO Podcast Scaling Enterprise SEO with Martin MacDonald Former Head of SEO at Paddy Power on what enterprise SEO really looks like at scale, the systems that make large programs work, and how to actually...